From kragen@dnaco.net Mon Sep 14 14:00:24 1998
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:00:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kragen <kragen@dnaco.net>
To: Joe <joeh@immediate.net>
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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Joe wrote:
> I don't believe you are correct in calling the Wiccan and leather communities
> "extreme-minority". It would be difficult in either case to cite numbers 
> due to the shifting definitions of what qualifies a person to be a 
> member of their respective communities. For instance, witchcraft and 
> paganism are closely related and it would be impossible to say who was 
> "in the community" and who wasn't.

I think both belong to the larger "magickal" community.  I didn't mean
the members of one particular religion (and yes, I'm aware "witchcraft"
tends to imply Wicca, but that wasn't what I meant by it) but the
overall set of people who believe they can do magic (or "magick").

Here in Dayton, I spotted a Wiccan at a lunch counter (by her pentagram
necklace).  I asked if there were a lot of Wiccans here; I think her
answer is that there are fewer than a hundred, out of a city of
400,000.

Even assuming that the Wiccans here are a tenth of the magickal
community of Dayton, that still means less than 1% of Daytonians
practice magick.

> In either case, the numbers of people involved are much larger than 
> the vanilla world suspects.

Yes -- I'm sure many Christian churches in Dayton would be shocked to
find that there were more Wiccans in Dayton than attendees at their
church.  :)

(And that's a great phrase -- "the vanilla world".  :)

(Out of curiosity, what do you think you have to be to be "vanilla"?
Not into leather or magick, presumably, but what about bisexuality,
"swinging", astrology, or Internet use?)

Kragen

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The sages do not believe that making no mistakes is a blessing. They believe, 
rather, that the great virtue of man lies in his ability to correct his 
mistakes and continually make a new man of himself.  -- Wang Yang-Ming


